Comments for Sqiz.co.uk http://sqiz.co.uk Derek White's Merchant Navy nostalgia Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:17:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5173 Admin Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:17:23 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-5173 Hi Jim, welcome aboard! Got to agree with you, happy memories of the Daggies ships. Ken Lubi has a great photo of the Naworth <a href="http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1040857" rel="nofollow">here</a> on the ShipSpotting website. The photo is taken from astern showing "Naworth Castle" but you can clearly see the Dalgliesh funnel and it isn't hard to tell from the deck cranes that she was sister to Letchworth and Oakworth (completed by Cammell Laird in 1973). I beleive she was actually the last of the Daggies fleet to be sold and was renamed Humanist in 1979. Hi Jim, welcome aboard!

Got to agree with you, happy memories of the Daggies ships. Ken Lubi has a great photo of the Naworth here on the ShipSpotting website. The photo is taken from astern showing “Naworth Castle” but you can clearly see the Dalgliesh funnel and it isn’t hard to tell from the deck cranes that she was sister to Letchworth and Oakworth (completed by Cammell Laird in 1973). I beleive she was actually the last of the Daggies fleet to be sold and was renamed Humanist in 1979.

]]> Comment on by Jim McConnell http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5165 Jim McConnell Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:12:15 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-5165 Great picture of the tamworth my 1st ship Daggies were great to work for, next ship was the Naworth Great picture of the tamworth my 1st ship Daggies were great to work for, next ship was the Naworth

]]> Comment on by Bob Cook http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-4598 Bob Cook Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:16:53 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-4598 PS. The picture of the officers wife, was that the 2nd mates wife and although I can't remember his name Blackburn? / Black something and came from the Richmond area of North Yorkshire. Really nice lad. PS. The picture of the officers wife, was that the 2nd mates wife and although I can’t remember his name Blackburn? / Black something and came from the Richmond area of North Yorkshire.
Really nice lad.

]]> Comment on by Bob Cook http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-4597 Bob Cook Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:13:46 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-4597 Hi Derek, I actually joined the Letchworth on 26/7/1977 in Hartlepool and sailed to Churchill and loaded grain for Alexandra. Then to Valencia and loaded cement for Kuwait (it may have been that trip when we ran aground) then to Durban and loaded coal for Dunkirk. So by the time I paid of I was 5 days short of a year. On my next ship I had an appendix and had to be airlifted off the ship just off Southampton. Next was the largest ship I ever been on the Varengfell 117,955 dwt. we ran salt between Cedros (Mexico) & Japan.Next was a coaster belonging to Rowbothams in which I got gassed in the pumproom, came very close to dying (and remember after thinking how easy it is to die) Then went with stag line on the Ixia & Begonia. By 1980 I joined a company callled Offshore Marine and worked in the North Sea & Med on supply boats. Best job I ever had. Sadly they were taken over by an American firm (Zapata Marine Services) and de-flagged. So went back to Stag line in what turned out to be my last trip joining the Begonia in Rouen 6/6/82 & paying off funnily enough in Durban on 7/2/83. Wanted to join the fire service and whilst waiting to go on the training course took a job with Royal Mail, with whom I stayed until 17/7/2010. I was a postman for a couple of years and became a manager but it became clear experiance and knowledge of the job did not count for much and I was always quite outspoken so I think RM were as pleased to get rid of me as I was of them. So today is the 1st anniversary of being officially retired. Whilst in the navy I took the opportunity to see the world and save a bit of money which luckily I invested wisely (in property) and now I do what I want. I have a 13 year son & an 11 year daughter and live in a small village called Aislaby, nr Pickering, North Yorkshire with wife & children. Last year I achieved my childhood and lifetime dream of owning a traction engine. Don't know if you know much about these things but it is a 1914 Garrett 4CD (compound) tractor. That as kept me busy since I retired and it gets it steam next next Monday 25/7/2011. So if ever you go to steam rallies and see an engine with my name on the canopy look me up or if passing let me know and I will dig out my photo's. If you pass on your e-mail address I will get some scanned and post them onto you. Regards Bob Cook Hi Derek,
I actually joined the Letchworth on 26/7/1977 in Hartlepool and sailed to Churchill and loaded grain for Alexandra. Then to Valencia and loaded cement for Kuwait (it may have been that trip when we ran aground) then to Durban and loaded coal for Dunkirk. So by the time I paid of I was 5 days short of a year. On my next ship I had an appendix and had to be airlifted off the ship just off Southampton. Next was the largest ship I ever been on the Varengfell 117,955 dwt. we ran salt between Cedros (Mexico) & Japan.Next was a coaster belonging to Rowbothams in which I got gassed in the pumproom, came very close to dying (and remember after thinking how easy it is to die) Then went with stag line on the Ixia & Begonia. By 1980 I joined a company callled Offshore Marine and worked in the North Sea & Med on supply boats. Best job I ever had. Sadly they were taken over by an American firm (Zapata Marine Services) and de-flagged. So went back to Stag line in what turned out to be my last trip joining the Begonia in Rouen 6/6/82 & paying off funnily enough in Durban on 7/2/83. Wanted to join the fire service and whilst waiting to go on the training course took a job with Royal Mail, with whom I stayed until 17/7/2010. I was a postman for a couple of years and became a manager but it became clear experiance and knowledge of the job did not count for much and I was always quite outspoken so I think RM were as pleased to get rid of me as I was of them. So today is the 1st anniversary of being officially retired. Whilst in the navy I took the opportunity to see the world and save a bit of money which luckily I invested wisely (in property) and now I do what I want. I have a 13 year son & an 11 year daughter and live in a small village called Aislaby, nr Pickering, North Yorkshire with wife & children. Last year I achieved my childhood and lifetime dream of owning a traction engine. Don’t know if you know much about these things but it is a 1914 Garrett 4CD (compound) tractor. That as kept me busy since I retired and it gets it steam next next Monday 25/7/2011. So if ever you go to steam rallies and see an engine with my name on the canopy look me up or if passing let me know and I will dig out my photo’s. If you pass on your e-mail address I will get some scanned and post them onto you.

Regards

Bob Cook

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-4590 Admin Sun, 17 Jul 2011 06:49:19 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-4590 Hi Bob, Fantastic to hear from you. Yes, I remember going through Suez but I never realised you were doing the steering - great stuff! I've recounted that episode in Durban several times - where one of the crew was stabbed to death by those railway tracks close to the quayside (see http://sqiz.co.uk/gallery/3/details.htm#Scan20183jpg) but people never really beleived me. As I remember, the rumour aboard ship it was the result of a fight over a woman rather than some random mugging but it really does show just how rough it was back in the day. Love to hear what you are doing now or have been up to since. Derek Hi Bob,

Fantastic to hear from you. Yes, I remember going through Suez but I never realised you were doing the steering – great stuff!

I’ve recounted that episode in Durban several times – where one of the crew was stabbed to death by those railway tracks close to the quayside (see http://sqiz.co.uk/gallery/3/details.htm#Scan20183jpg) but people never really beleived me. As I remember, the rumour aboard ship it was the result of a fight over a woman rather than some random mugging but it really does show just how rough it was back in the day. Love to hear what you are doing now or have been up to since.

Derek

]]> Comment on by Bob Cook http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-4582 Bob Cook Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:33:50 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-4582 Hi Derek, Your description of the Letchworth trip brought back many memories. Myself and the bosun Joe Murray (huge man) were the only white deck hands as me stayed on when the rest of the crew paid off on 23/12/1977. All the rest of the deck crew were Cape Verde islands as the company did not want a british crew so soon to Xmas.Remember going ashore in Providence and came out of a club and some bloke put a gun to my head. I pissed myself. Certainly loads of snow in either Bridgeport or Rhode Island. When we went through the suez I steered it all the way through as the pilot would not allow any of the Cape Verde sailors to take the wheel. Loaded cement in Romania and took it to Kuwait, where we ran grounded as I remember we had made so much fresh water whilst at sea and the plan was to sell it. Whilst in Durban one of the Cape Verde seaman was stabbed to death on the quayside, Myself and the cook found him after we had had a night in Durban (the Cape Verde's ) could not join us due to apartied. The Seaman painting the housing is me. Thirty odd years younger and quite a bit lighter. Great days, thanks for posting. Hi Derek,
Your description of the Letchworth trip brought back many memories. Myself and the bosun Joe Murray (huge man) were the only white deck hands as me stayed on when the rest of the crew paid off on 23/12/1977. All the rest of the deck crew were Cape Verde islands as the company did not want a british crew so soon to Xmas.Remember going ashore in Providence and came out of a club and some bloke put a gun to my head. I pissed myself. Certainly loads of snow in either Bridgeport or Rhode Island. When we went through the suez I steered it all the way through as the pilot would not allow any of the Cape Verde sailors to take the wheel. Loaded cement in Romania and took it to Kuwait, where we ran grounded as I remember we had made so much fresh water whilst at sea and the plan was to sell it. Whilst in Durban one of the Cape Verde seaman was stabbed to death on the quayside, Myself and the cook found him after we had had a night in Durban (the Cape Verde’s ) could not join us due to apartied. The Seaman painting the housing is me. Thirty odd years younger and quite a bit lighter. Great days, thanks for posting.

]]> Comment on by Julian Hook http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-3137 Julian Hook Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:40:40 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-3137 Derek Just stumbled on your web site it is great Gobsmacked when I saw a picture of myself on the Oakworth, I have loads of pics from that trip, will scan them and send them to you . it would be good to get in touch with any of the ex daggies men, I remember Neil Graham and Maurice Cooper, What was the name of the 4th engineer in the arab headress? Derek
Just stumbled on your web site it is great Gobsmacked when I saw a picture of myself on the Oakworth, I have loads of pics from that trip, will scan them and send them to you . it would be good to get in touch with any of the ex daggies men, I remember Neil Graham and Maurice Cooper, What was the name of the 4th engineer in the arab headress?

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-2545 Admin Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:25:43 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-2545 Hi David, Always happy to jog a few old memories.! I can't help you with John Chapple but Ian from Ropners would be Ian Slack my old room mate South Shields. We weren't fond of the digs Dalgliesh put us in so for the last year we rented a house and pretended to be each others landlords to get the rent from the company. I haven't heard from him since 2002, he had left Ropners after eight years and last I heard he was running his own contracting business - I could drop him an email if you like? Maurice contacted me last year after he stumbled across the site too, I'll send him your email address and hopefully he'll be in touch. Derek PS: The name Tom Heron rings a bell but I can't put a face to him atm :( Hi David,

Always happy to jog a few old memories.!

I can’t help you with John Chapple but Ian from Ropners would be Ian Slack my old room mate South Shields. We weren’t fond of the digs Dalgliesh put us in so for the last year we rented a house and pretended to be each others landlords to get the rent from the company. I haven’t heard from him since 2002, he had left Ropners after eight years and last I heard he was running his own contracting business – I could drop him an email if you like?

Maurice contacted me last year after he stumbled across the site too, I’ll send him your email address and hopefully he’ll be in touch.

Derek
PS: The name Tom Heron rings a bell but I can’t put a face to him atm :(

]]> Comment on by David Nichol http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-2544 David Nichol Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:49:39 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-2544 Hello Derek - very nice site you have here, I just wish I had been as diligent with my camera when at sea. I went ot sea with Ropners in Sept '78. On my first trip, there were a couple of ex Dalgliesh cadets finishing off their sea time. One was an engineer called Ian - he is featured in your album of SS Tech (cant remember his surname) and the other was a deck cadet from Chester le Street named John Chapple. I have been trying to trace JC for years without success. There were also a couple of other ex-Daggies guys - Tom Heron C/E and an old soak Mate called Laurie Laidlaw. I have sailed with Maurice Cooper on another of Ropners ships (Thirlby) in 1979. Resident in France at the time and sailing with Sylvana. If you see this Maurice it would be good to get in touch. I left the sea not long after getting my Master's ticket and now work for a P&I Club. Hello Derek – very nice site you have here, I just wish I had been as diligent with my camera when at sea.

I went ot sea with Ropners in Sept ’78. On my first trip, there were a couple of ex Dalgliesh cadets finishing off their sea time. One was an engineer called Ian – he is featured in your album of SS Tech (cant remember his surname) and the other was a deck cadet from Chester le Street named John Chapple. I have been trying to trace JC for years without success.

There were also a couple of other ex-Daggies guys – Tom Heron C/E and an old soak Mate called Laurie Laidlaw.

I have sailed with Maurice Cooper on another of Ropners ships (Thirlby) in 1979. Resident in France at the time and sailing with Sylvana. If you see this Maurice it would be good to get in touch. I left the sea not long after getting my Master’s ticket and now work for a P&I Club.

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-1371 Admin Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:40:21 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-1371 Hi Justin, Oooh, so it's a family heirloom already! Well I've never seen another nor anthing else that might suggest it was part of a set. Strangely enough at around the time these were made I was dating a lass who collected plates and lived in Upper Hanley close to the Grimwades pottery - it really is a small world! Hang on to it - I'm sure it's worth a fortune. :) Derek Hi Justin,

Oooh, so it’s a family heirloom already! Well I’ve never seen another nor anthing else that might suggest it was part of a set. Strangely enough at around the time these were made I was dating a lass who collected plates and lived in Upper Hanley close to the Grimwades pottery – it really is a small world!

Hang on to it – I’m sure it’s worth a fortune.
:)
Derek

]]> Comment on by Justin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-1368 Justin Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:09:56 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-1368 Hi, We may be the only two people in the world with M.V. Tamworth plates. I have the exact plate you show on your website. The only difference I see is that mine still has the Grimwades Royal Winton Original sticker still on the front surface. Believe it or not I am a world away in Edmonton Alberta Canada. I believe my Grandfather was actually in the Navy and was on the ship as my Grandmother passed the plate onto me. Best Regards, Justin Hi,

We may be the only two people in the world with M.V. Tamworth plates. I have the exact plate you show on your website. The only difference I see is that mine still has the Grimwades Royal Winton Original sticker still on the front surface. Believe it or not I am a world away in Edmonton Alberta Canada. I believe my Grandfather was actually in the Navy and was on the ship as my Grandmother passed the plate onto me.

Best Regards,

Justin

]]> Comment on by guy bage http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-585 guy bage Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:46:07 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-585 justed out side of the ofvers mees was a cowed water unit !! eye mite of got it rong !! ted rogers cheif stuwted and parser !! he saild with mee dad for yaers ! oily water sirepraters and suffing boxser love it !! we where down to one compreser and two gennyes ! the only thing wot cept that old doxsy engin going wos engineerning 2 and a hrf ball pain hamer with a bib of hemp rope throw the end of the shank !! keeping a swich gear down as u went in to the controll room ! on the right just as u go in the door !! lol nownt like a bit of enguoowty !! lolo thahs mee dar for u !! justed out side of the ofvers mees was a cowed water unit !! eye mite of got it rong !! ted rogers cheif stuwted and parser !! he saild with mee dad for yaers ! oily water sirepraters and suffing boxser love it !! we where down to one compreser and two gennyes ! the only thing wot cept that old doxsy engin going wos engineerning 2 and a hrf ball pain hamer with a bib of hemp rope throw the end of the shank !! keeping a swich gear down as u went in to the controll room ! on the right just as u go in the door !! lol nownt like a bit of enguoowty !! lolo thahs mee dar for u !!

]]> Comment on by guy bage http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-584 guy bage Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:29:35 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-584 hi eyem back agian !! the oakworth had thes old rustiy pipes on her deck ! they where sirake like ! off then she cared congonecet !! when wee where at ancker ! up the proushen golf ! a greck continer ship saled in and droped ancker over houer bow ! there wos a bit of a sellow on that night ! and she drage her ancker ! she came and crushed mv oakworths ! bow in ! right on the pointy bit ! it wos canny sarey to see two ships cum to gether !! at this time there wos about 47 ships at anker at bandeas in the prusand golf !! mee and ourer boy ! weed sit on the end of gangway with a cluster of linghs awer the side to get the fisth baite !! there mouths at anker ! nee water or food !! lol ! thear cum round tuck the handes off the torits ! and only put the water on at the end of every 4 hour shift ! for ten mintes !! hi eyem back agian !! the oakworth had thes old rustiy pipes on her deck ! they where sirake like ! off then she cared congonecet !! when wee where at ancker ! up the proushen golf ! a greck continer ship saled in and droped ancker over houer bow ! there wos a bit of a sellow on that night ! and she drage her ancker ! she came and crushed mv oakworths ! bow in ! right on the pointy bit ! it wos canny sarey to see two ships cum to gether !! at this time there wos about 47 ships at anker at bandeas in the prusand golf !!
mee and ourer boy ! weed sit on the end of gangway with a cluster of linghs awer the side to get the fisth baite !! there mouths at anker ! nee water or food !! lol ! thear cum round tuck the handes off the torits ! and only put the water on at the end of every 4 hour shift ! for ten mintes !!

]]> Comment on by guy bage http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-583 guy bage Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:02:08 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-583 hi ! after finneding this weebsite !! eye can not sleep !! wee had a litlle sturwit from souwde sheils about 5 foowt ! very darck hair with a mexeigane tash ! he wood cum round and wet the chable clothe in bad wether !! but the capin and chife engineer wood all ways get the noses bag first !! eye can rember the lovelly sprllicded rope under the chares with the brass uhock on ! and the eye on the florr !! eye got loads of menriers ! from wen eye wos about 4 or 5 ! and all thes names r just floding back ! glyn ! mi shurer u where the wilers gagy on the oakworth 1975 ! bolned hiar and big nose !! hi ! after finneding this weebsite !! eye can not sleep !! wee had a litlle sturwit from souwde sheils about 5 foowt ! very darck hair with a mexeigane tash ! he wood cum round and wet the chable clothe in bad wether !! but the capin and chife engineer wood all ways get the noses bag first !! eye can rember the lovelly sprllicded rope under the chares with the brass uhock on ! and the eye on the florr !! eye got loads of menriers ! from wen eye wos about 4 or 5 ! and all thes names r just floding back ! glyn ! mi shurer u where the wilers gagy on the oakworth 1975 ! bolned hiar and big nose !!

]]> Comment on by guy bage http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-572 guy bage Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:14:31 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-572 goimg back to mv oakworth !! chief stuwed and parser ! ted withighe !! first mate and 2nd mate wos gorege ? he wos from a faimly of tuge boat on the tnye !! and allne wos there mate i think !! wee hah a capverdy croow ! which dun not but frit and cuoowch all the piant and brushers over boad lol !! then wee had a dorcky man touck a ragey frit !! thats a nther story !! 3 rnd engineener wos a cornish man hae had a couple off figers off on his right hand !! !! when we where all up the golf !! all the crew whent a shore and kicked off !! there all got sent home that wos the hole ideer !! eye can reember a sturet call loffty ! chucking himsefl douw the engineening stars ! he brock hes leg and seent home with tge reest of them !! wee also had three jouner engineers ! two from steailds ! one wos a big lad ! how allways got the job of opening tge vagle on top of the boila ! and ustow joup off when shes boots where merlltting ! and wee lerting how to simm !! mee dad saild with one of the jounres for a long time !! he wos laftin ! all ways tarked a bout the atmarikes !! im shuwer he wos called cics !! nee eye cud go no night !! but mee spells getting wurs !! !!! eye can rember the pennyworth and the ravenswoth ! mind ship acomadashen !! goimg back to mv oakworth !! chief stuwed and parser ! ted withighe !! first mate and 2nd mate wos gorege ? he wos from a faimly of tuge boat on the tnye !! and allne wos there mate i think !! wee hah a capverdy croow ! which dun not but frit and cuoowch all the piant and brushers over boad lol !! then wee had a dorcky man touck a ragey frit !! thats a nther story !! 3 rnd engineener wos a cornish man hae had a couple off figers off on his right hand !! !! when we where all up the golf !! all the crew whent a shore and kicked off !! there all got sent home that wos the hole ideer !! eye can reember a sturet call loffty ! chucking himsefl douw the engineening stars ! he brock hes leg and seent home with tge reest of them !! wee also had three jouner engineers ! two from steailds ! one wos a big lad ! how allways got the job of opening tge vagle on top of the boila ! and ustow joup off when shes boots where merlltting ! and wee lerting how to simm !! mee dad saild with one of the jounres for a long time !! he wos laftin ! all ways tarked a bout the atmarikes !! im shuwer he wos called cics !! nee eye cud go no night !! but mee spells getting wurs !! !!! eye can rember the pennyworth and the ravenswoth ! mind ship acomadashen !!

]]> Comment on by guy bage http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-540 guy bage Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:46:48 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-540 hi ship mates ! i no that a lot of ulls went to sea with mee old man ! gorgey bage he wos with radys dagys for sum yaers ! i don a 9 mounth trip on mv oakworth !! and i wos only 12 yaers old at the time !! wot a trip !! 1975 up to churchill ! down to durbin ! then up to banrabas ! 3 mouth at anrker ! nee water or food ! had xmes and mee 13 b day in the goulf !! then back durbin ! up to annturp !! back in the tyne for dry dock !!! hi ship mates ! i no that a lot of ulls went to sea with mee old man ! gorgey bage he wos with radys dagys for sum yaers ! i don a 9 mounth trip on mv oakworth !! and i wos only 12 yaers old at the time !! wot a trip !! 1975 up to churchill ! down to durbin ! then up to banrabas ! 3 mouth at anrker ! nee water or food ! had xmes and mee 13 b day in the goulf !! then back durbin ! up to annturp !! back in the tyne for dry dock !!!

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-457 Admin Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:12:52 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-457 Hi Keith, well Neil and I were on the Letchworth for seven months finally leaving her on 21st July 78, so it sounds like you replaced us straight away. I think we left everything in pretty good condition but if you found any problems in the engineroom I should blame Neil! Love to know how you found the website and if you have any photos from the old days - I think Barrie has been talking about creating an archive. Hi Keith, well Neil and I were on the Letchworth for seven months finally leaving her on 21st July 78, so it sounds like you replaced us straight away. I think we left everything in pretty good condition but if you found any problems in the engineroom I should blame Neil! Love to know how you found the website and if you have any photos from the old days – I think Barrie has been talking about creating an archive.

]]> Comment on by keith Billings http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-454 keith Billings Sat, 11 Sep 2010 09:40:50 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-454 Hi Derek, what a great website, brings back fond memories.I was a dalgleish engineering cadet started sept 76 was on the Letchworth july 78 until it was sold to Chinese in jan 79. 2nd was Jan Szeilega who passed away in early 90,s Also remember 3rd eng called Dusty Miller. Dalgliesh seemed to be filled with the ranks of some wonderful characters. Other cadets in my intake were Dave Moody and Brian Seales.Both me and Dave were transferred to Esso. Think Dave was on the Naworth Hi Derek, what a great website, brings back fond memories.I was a dalgleish engineering cadet started sept 76 was on the Letchworth july 78 until it was sold to Chinese in jan 79. 2nd was Jan Szeilega who passed away in early 90,s Also remember 3rd eng called Dusty Miller. Dalgliesh seemed to be filled with the ranks of some wonderful characters. Other cadets in my intake were Dave Moody and Brian Seales.Both me and Dave were transferred to Esso. Think Dave was on the Naworth

]]> Comment on by Barrie Stevens http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-408 Barrie Stevens Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:44:00 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-408 I have some lunch and dinner menus from various launchings in the 1960s ie Silksworth, Ravensworth, Letchworth etc. Must scane them some time. Tell you what, they did not stint on the menu and wines in those days. Also have piccy of Warkworth going down slipway and some prow photos that come with the menus...Must scan!!! I have some lunch and dinner menus from various launchings in the 1960s ie Silksworth, Ravensworth, Letchworth etc. Must scane them some time. Tell you what, they did not stint on the menu and wines in those days. Also have piccy of Warkworth going down slipway and some prow photos that come with the menus…Must scan!!!

]]> Comment on by Barrie Stevens http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-407 Barrie Stevens Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:41:27 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-407 I am doing a history of my late father's involvement with both RSD and Papalios/Aegis (Lots of scandal in the way that banks and others behaved!)...I was amazed to see that Robert Stanley Dalgleish (RSD) started the firm in 1906 with the "Kenilworth" and owned a Blyth shipyard and in the early 1940s I think stood trial and was gaoled for conspiracy to bribe an Admiralty official!!....Peter Dalgleish (RSD's son) would fly a lot on business when this was rare and sadly ended up with some form of dementia. His son Nicholas or Nicky Dalgleish shot himself in the 1970s maybe about 1978????..He was upset over failure of the firm on his watch!....RSD was a son of Jonathan Dalgleish 1839-1927 a famous Newcastle suregeon and physician. RSD was Sherriff of Newcastle and his year ended the day his father died. RSD was also a Newcastle Alderman...Have you any photos of Dalgleish family??? I am doing a history of my late father’s involvement with both RSD and Papalios/Aegis (Lots of scandal in the way that banks and others behaved!)…I was amazed to see that Robert Stanley Dalgleish (RSD) started the firm in 1906 with the “Kenilworth” and owned a Blyth shipyard and in the early 1940s I think stood trial and was gaoled for conspiracy to bribe an Admiralty official!!….Peter Dalgleish (RSD’s son) would fly a lot on business when this was rare and sadly ended up with some form of dementia. His son Nicholas or Nicky Dalgleish shot himself in the 1970s maybe about 1978????..He was upset over failure of the firm on his watch!….RSD was a son of Jonathan Dalgleish 1839-1927 a famous Newcastle suregeon and physician. RSD was Sherriff of Newcastle and his year ended the day his father died. RSD was also a Newcastle Alderman…Have you any photos of Dalgleish family???

]]> Comment on by Barrie Stevens http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Barrie Stevens Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:00:26 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-92 John Proctor from the Baltic Exchange also took over in R S Dalgelish after my late father Ken Stevens left. I recall them discussing pensions and the company future. John Proctor is now retired in Australia and on the Baltic retired list. My Dad said that Peter Dalgleish said he would not sell out ever! He did! I think it was a case of asset stripping!! My Dad also took all his RSD pension pot as cash he said he could do better with it! RSD was a company that paid cash for everything, built British and did safe grain chartering with the likes of Bunge, Tradax, Cargill, European Grain, Dreyfus etc...They had to go! And they did. It was frustration that made my father give up on them... John Proctor from the Baltic Exchange also took over in R S Dalgelish after my late father Ken Stevens left. I recall them discussing pensions and the company future. John Proctor is now retired in Australia and on the Baltic retired list. My Dad said that Peter Dalgleish said he would not sell out ever! He did! I think it was a case of asset stripping!! My Dad also took all his RSD pension pot as cash he said he could do better with it! RSD was a company that paid cash for everything, built British and did safe grain chartering with the likes of Bunge, Tradax, Cargill, European Grain, Dreyfus etc…They had to go! And they did. It was frustration that made my father give up on them…

]]> Comment on by Barrie Stevens http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Barrie Stevens Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:50:23 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-91 Derek. Contact me. I have a photo of my Dad in his DJ going to a Baltic do in the RSD days and one of me as a boy on "Warkworth".... Derek. Contact me. I have a photo of my Dad in his DJ going to a Baltic do in the RSD days and one of me as a boy on “Warkworth”….

]]> Comment on by Barrie Stevens http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Barrie Stevens Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:47:07 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-90 When my late father Ken Stevens chartered the ships for R S Dalgleish from about 1955 to about 1967-68 he came to attention by doing a suicide charter namely, one of the "Worth" ships taking white sugar from Tate and Lyle on the Thames to New Zealand and if I recall aright ballasting back to do a series of consecutive voyages on freight charter ie so much a ton. Sounds mad!!! I don 't recall any intermediate charter although there may have been a ballast bonus??..Anyway, when the accounts came in Peter Dalgleish dropped all criticism and called for more!!! (There was not any as it was an emergency charter for someone in the sugar trade and having the right ship at the right time in the right place is what shipowing as a tramp is all about!!!) My Dad would take me to the Custom House on the Thames and in the early days he was also RSD's "Water Clerk". When I joined the Baltic in April 1971 I was told by the Baltic to learn to be a Water Clerk but the old Baltic was like the Vatican!!! (out of touch and a world unto itself) ...We even had to study Liberty Ships which were scrap candidates even then!...We used to get grouse from Peter Dalgelish and my mother would bury them or Dad would give them away!! ... When my late father Ken Stevens chartered the ships for R S Dalgleish from about 1955 to about 1967-68 he came to attention by doing a suicide charter namely, one of the “Worth” ships taking white sugar from Tate and Lyle on the Thames to New Zealand and if I recall aright ballasting back to do a series of consecutive voyages on freight charter ie so much a ton. Sounds mad!!! I don ‘t recall any intermediate charter although there may have been a ballast bonus??..Anyway, when the accounts came in Peter Dalgleish dropped all criticism and called for more!!! (There was not any as it was an emergency charter for someone in the sugar trade and having the right ship at the right time in the right place is what shipowing as a tramp is all about!!!) My Dad would take me to the Custom House on the Thames and in the early days he was also RSD’s “Water Clerk”. When I joined the Baltic in April 1971 I was told by the Baltic to learn to be a Water Clerk but the old Baltic was like the Vatican!!! (out of touch and a world unto itself) …We even had to study Liberty Ships which were scrap candidates even then!…We used to get grouse from Peter Dalgelish and my mother would bury them or Dad would give them away!! …

]]> Comment on by Barrie Stevens http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Barrie Stevens Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:24:38 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-89 My late father Kenneth Harry Stevens (Ken Stevens 1924-1996) did a lot of the chartering for R S Dalgleish and was elected to represent them on the old Baltic Exchange in 1955. Prior to that he had worked in the docks for Blue Funnel. Lionel Tebbut was a colleague but left to work in Hong Kong where I met him around 1972 along with Graham Shillaker (Howe Rob/Matheson Chartering). I am a now retired Baltic Member. Ken Stevens also worked the tonnage of Hadjilias & Co and also I think Stephen Sutton. They sold up and their heir was a baronet whose name I forget (as I write I do it was John Renwick whose father Sir Eustace was killed when his horse fell on him and John became Sir John R) but who rightly gave up on British flag and went into horses and tack in the Newcastle rural area. Some of my memories go back to being a little boy in the RSD office on Saturdays when the City was open then. RSD office was like Charles Dickens with old half hull models round the wall. My Dad insisted that the office be modernised and they let him do it! When he put a waste bin on the floor one Director Jimmy Needham said that it cost so many pounds a square foor in space. So he put the bin on his desk! Jimmy Needham was a drunk one of the old City types now in museums. Walter Hill was the other Diector in London and good at his job but he only wanted to do North Atalntic grain! I went on the coal burner Plawswoth in London when aboutg five and was scared of the engines. I went on the Warkworth in London when discharging grain under Captain Thomson from Blyth. RSD also man aged the sugar ships for Tate and Lyle until they formed their own firm Kentships and my Dad managed and chartered them. I had Tate and Lyle calendars. RSD bosses got the sugar samples of cargo at a time of rationing. We got nothing. I recall the Ravensworth taking ireon ore from Narvik to Ford's in Dagenham on the Thames. I recall the launches up North and my parents going on the Pullman to Newcastle!!! My Dad knew he was underpaid and after 17 years pointed this out. Dalgelish said "You get more salary than the Directors" he replied "But I don't have an estate and grouse moors!" One day John Armstrong of HE Moss Sale and Purchase broker for Captain N D Papalios put them in touch and my Dad took the job as broker for Aegis Shipping and somehow chartered a fleet one time 120 ships mostly on his own as broker and helped out with managing and finance etc. This made him ill. When he left RSD he did not give three months notice and walked out and financially we never looked back as a family. Peter Dalgleish sold out to Lonrho for shares and it went wrong. Nick Dalgleish shot himself about 1978-79 out of despair. Peter Dalgleish his father I think was in a home with Alzheimer's. The ships got sold to China. I recall the trophies for being first in to Churchill in Hudson's Bay but now all mine are gone. I have one pic of me on Warkworth aged 14. My late father Kenneth Harry Stevens (Ken Stevens 1924-1996) did a lot of the chartering for R S Dalgleish and was elected to represent them on the old Baltic Exchange in 1955. Prior to that he had worked in the docks for Blue Funnel. Lionel Tebbut was a colleague but left to work in Hong Kong where I met him around 1972 along with Graham Shillaker (Howe Rob/Matheson Chartering). I am a now retired Baltic Member. Ken Stevens also worked the tonnage of Hadjilias & Co and also I think Stephen Sutton. They sold up and their heir was a baronet whose name I forget (as I write I do it was John Renwick whose father Sir Eustace was killed when his horse fell on him and John became Sir John R) but who rightly gave up on British flag and went into horses and tack in the Newcastle rural area. Some of my memories go back to being a little boy in the RSD office on Saturdays when the City was open then. RSD office was like Charles Dickens with old half hull models round the wall. My Dad insisted that the office be modernised and they let him do it! When he put a waste bin on the floor one Director Jimmy Needham said that it cost so many pounds a square foor in space. So he put the bin on his desk! Jimmy Needham was a drunk one of the old City types now in museums. Walter Hill was the other Diector in London and good at his job but he only wanted to do North Atalntic grain! I went on the coal burner Plawswoth in London when aboutg five and was scared of the engines. I went on the Warkworth in London when discharging grain under Captain Thomson from Blyth. RSD also man aged the sugar ships for Tate and Lyle until they formed their own firm Kentships and my Dad managed and chartered them. I had Tate and Lyle calendars. RSD bosses got the sugar samples of cargo at a time of rationing. We got nothing. I recall the Ravensworth taking ireon ore from Narvik to Ford’s in Dagenham on the Thames. I recall the launches up North and my parents going on the Pullman to Newcastle!!! My Dad knew he was underpaid and after 17 years pointed this out. Dalgelish said “You get more salary than the Directors” he replied “But I don’t have an estate and grouse moors!” One day John Armstrong of HE Moss Sale and Purchase broker for Captain N D Papalios put them in touch and my Dad took the job as broker for Aegis Shipping and somehow chartered a fleet one time 120 ships mostly on his own as broker and helped out with managing and finance etc. This made him ill. When he left RSD he did not give three months notice and walked out and financially we never looked back as a family. Peter Dalgleish sold out to Lonrho for shares and it went wrong. Nick Dalgleish shot himself about 1978-79 out of despair. Peter Dalgleish his father I think was in a home with Alzheimer’s. The ships got sold to China. I recall the trophies for being first in to Churchill in Hudson’s Bay but now all mine are gone. I have one pic of me on Warkworth aged 14.

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Admin Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:31:11 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-81 Hey Maurice! I love it when that happens - there you are idly browsing something and suddenly out of the blue you stumble on something unexpected :) Are you and Sylvana still together after all these years? I remember the Xmas onboard when that photo was taken and the fancy dress party too - happy days indeed. If you can put names to any of the other faces or have a decent photo of the Oakworth I'd love to hear from you. All the best Derek Hey Maurice!

I love it when that happens – there you are idly browsing something and suddenly out of the blue you stumble on something unexpected :)

Are you and Sylvana still together after all these years? I remember the Xmas onboard when that photo was taken and the fancy dress party too – happy days indeed. If you can put names to any of the other faces or have a decent photo of the Oakworth I’d love to hear from you.

All the best
Derek

]]> Comment on by Maurice Cooper http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Maurice Cooper Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:15:22 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-80 Hi Derek, I was absolutely stunned to see myself in your photo.I was the 2nd Mate on the Oakworth. I am on the left and my wife Sylvana on the right in the photo taken in the Officers Mess. As you say it was a family company and Lance Hislop always remembered your voice and name even if you had been away for seven months. I worked on the Starworth, Ravensworth, Tamworth, Letchworth, Oakworth and Naworth, visiting Churchill many times. I recently moved house and have abox of old photographs so may find some in there. If I do I will let you know. Regards, M Hi Derek,

I was absolutely stunned to see myself in your photo.I was the 2nd Mate on the Oakworth. I am on the left and my wife Sylvana on the right in the photo taken in the Officers Mess. As you say it was a family company and Lance Hislop always remembered your voice and name even if you had been away for seven months.

I worked on the Starworth, Ravensworth, Tamworth, Letchworth, Oakworth and Naworth, visiting Churchill many times. I recently moved house and have abox of old photographs so may find some in there. If I do I will let you know.

Regards, M

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Admin Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:04:33 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-20 Hi Glyn, Thanks for dropping by, if my little website brought back a few good memories for you my job is done :) I'm slowly scanning some old negatives at the moment but I haven't come across any really good ones of the Oakworth yet , it looks like I spent more time photographing where we went than how we got there - which is a shame in hindsight. Hi Glyn,

Thanks for dropping by, if my little website brought back a few good memories for you my job is done :) I’m slowly scanning some old negatives at the moment but I haven’t come across any really good ones of the Oakworth yet , it looks like I spent more time photographing where we went than how we got there – which is a shame in hindsight.

]]> Comment on by glyn moorhouse http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-19 glyn moorhouse Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:59:03 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-19 hello it was interesting to read on your site about raggy daggys rs dalgleish &co. i joined the tamworth 27-10-75 in south shields brigham&cowans dry dock i remember being in the hudson bay churchill manitoba payed off birkenhead 10-4-76 i also sailed the oakworth from 21-7-76 to 12-11-76 as 5th eng. before then i worked for houlder bros. on gas tankers. hello it was interesting to read on your site about raggy daggys rs dalgleish &co. i joined the tamworth 27-10-75 in south shields brigham&cowans dry dock i remember being in the hudson bay churchill manitoba payed off birkenhead 10-4-76 i also sailed the oakworth from 21-7-76 to 12-11-76 as 5th eng. before then i worked for houlder bros. on gas tankers.

]]> Comment on by Lionel Tebbutt http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Lionel Tebbutt Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:50:09 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-7 G'Day from W.A Derek- Whilst my time with the co was spent in their London office I did know most of the seniors in Newcastle. I joined the co through a connection with Nick Dalgleish son of Peter the owner. Nick was sent by his father to Denhooms in Glasgow to gain wider experience in managment.,at the time I was ship manager with them. When it came time for Nick to go back to Newcastle he suggested I might like to join him working out of their London office where we did the chartering of the company vessels also those of Stephen Sutton another Newcastle tramp co and a London Greek shipwner.Peter Dalgleish (Nicks Father) was considered to be a fairly consevative owner.,but things started to go rather pear shape after the connection with Lonro,but thats another story!! Regards Teb G’Day from W.A Derek- Whilst my time with the co was spent in their London office I did know most of the seniors in Newcastle. I joined the co through a connection with Nick Dalgleish son of Peter the owner. Nick was sent by his father to Denhooms in Glasgow to gain wider experience in managment.,at the time I was ship manager with them. When it came time for Nick to go back to Newcastle he suggested I might like to join him working out of their London office where we did the chartering of the company vessels also those of Stephen Sutton another Newcastle tramp co and a London Greek shipwner.Peter Dalgleish (Nicks Father) was considered to be a fairly consevative owner.,but things started to go rather pear shape after the connection with Lonro,but thats another story!! Regards Teb

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Admin Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:57:19 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-6 Hi Lionel, I'm afraid we didn't see very much of the shore side operation but the company did take very good care of us, it all seemed much more friendly compared to the impersonal administration I experienced after I joined Shell Tankers. I know my parents used to pester the life out of a certain Mr Hislop – he was the very patient contact they had at Dalgliesh while I was a cadet. Derek Hi Lionel,

I’m afraid we didn’t see very much of the shore side operation but the company did take very good care of us, it all seemed much more friendly compared to the impersonal administration I experienced after I joined Shell Tankers. I know my parents used to pester the life out of a certain Mr Hislop – he was the very patient contact they had at Dalgliesh while I was a cadet.

Derek

]]> Comment on by Lionel Tebbutt http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Lionel Tebbutt Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:45:18 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-5 Found your website very interesting as very little is heard Dalgleish/Watergate these days.Iwas involved with the co.prior to you joining them .but I was shore based not at sea.The company was never quite the same after the family lost control.I was involved in the fixing of the ships on the Baltic Exchange . Regards Teb. Found your website very interesting as very little is heard Dalgleish/Watergate these days.Iwas involved with the co.prior to you joining them .but I was shore based not at sea.The company was never quite the same after the family lost control.I was involved in the fixing of the ships on the Baltic Exchange . Regards Teb.

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Admin Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:21:48 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-4 Hi Neil, Glad to hear my faded photo's brought back a few memories for you, I remember our trips together on the Oakworth and Letchworth very fondly - great times! It would be great to hear from you again and reminisce or find out what happened to you after RS Dalgliesh – just drop me an email. all the best Derek Hi Neil,

Glad to hear my faded photo’s brought back a few memories for you, I remember our trips together on the Oakworth and Letchworth very fondly – great times! It would be great to hear from you again and reminisce or find out what happened to you after RS Dalgliesh – just drop me an email.

all the best
Derek

]]> Comment on by neil graham http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-3 neil graham Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:19:12 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-3 Derek, Someone sent me your website link so thought I'd make contact. Enjoyed looking at the photo's - some good memories there. Rgds, Neil Derek,
Someone sent me your website link so thought I’d make contact. Enjoyed looking at the photo’s – some good memories there.
Rgds, Neil

]]> Comment on by Admin http://sqiz.co.uk/2010/01/27/136/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Admin Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:33:36 +0000 http://sqiz.co.uk/?p=136#comment-2 Please feel free to contact me with any corrections, identifications or ommissions. Please feel free to contact me with any corrections, identifications or ommissions.

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